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35328: Sunday Times om Defender: (28-05-2006 12:27:31)
Jan Jørgensen (medlemsstatus ukendt) (ip-adr: 80.198.17.219)
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35407: sv: Sunday Times om Defender: (30-05-2006 21:12:12) (svar på 35328)
Paul Sehstedt #0027, reg. fyn (medlem) (ip-adr: 80.164.64.59)
Linket virker ikke (mere) !
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35412: sv: sv: Sunday Times om Defender: (31-05-2006 00:11:53) (svar på 35407)
Morten Dam #6034, reg. nvsj (medlem) (ip-adr: 80.160.111.54)
Såh? Kan humlebien måske heller ikk'e flyve, selvom den har for bette vingefang til tøndekroppen?
Nuvel frænde, her er så det snik-snak om Defender, der FINDES på Times Online – når man altså har en ordentlig browser. Go''nat derude.
Mvh og landyt-dyt
Morten

Times Online
May 28, 2006

Land Rover Defender
By Jason Dawe of The Sunday Times
Few of the cars I drive split opinion in my house as much as the Land Rover Defender. While my eldest daughter and I dread even the shortest of journeys in one, my wife and youngest child can’t wait to get out and about in this motoring icon.
And icon it is. With a bloodline that dates back to 1948 it is an elder statesman of the automotive world and deserves respect on the basis of longevity alone. But that, for me, has never been a good enough reason to buy a used example.
The problem about buying a used Land Rover Defender is that it delivers talents and shortcomings in equal measure, so depending on your needs it’s either your perfect partner or a marriage made in hell.
First there are the looks: distinctive, rugged and timeless. A Land Rover Defender manages to look as comfortable on a moor as it does at your child’s speech day, which is an unusual combination. But on the downside its bluff styling and a heavy kerb weight make it feel ponderous through the bends and noisy on the motorway.
Second there are the engines. Unless you own an oil well the older V8 models will see the petrol gauge needle dropping faster than a Christmas number one in the January charts. Even the later 2.5 litre Td5 turbodiesel has a passion for fuel stations, and few owners ever return close to the 28.2mpg quoted in the official government figures. But as my wife is quick to point out, the Land Rover Defender’s fuel consumption seems impervious to the addition of a horsebox, so if, as she does, you intend to tow, the fuel consumption starts to look far more reasonable.
Then you have the interior. I maintain that you would never travel in a light aircraft that looked as archaic on the inside as a Land Rover Defender. My wife points out that global adventurers place their trust in them every day. The dashboard is at best utilitarian and the flaps of metal that drop down to allow additional fresh air into the cabin are frankly primitive. But while I prod and poke the Defender’s interior in disbelief my wife and youngest daughter find its simplicity delightful.
On the plus side the Land Rover Defender is available in three wheelbase lengths — 90, 110 and 130. The 90 and 110 are available as a pick-up, hardtop and station wagon while the 110 is available as a double cab and the 130 as a crew cab.
Over the years these chassis have provided the foundations for everything from ambulances to outside broadcast galleries. But it’s the County Station Wagon that is most likely to be found on a private buyer’s driveway. With rear windows and side-facing benches there’s plenty of space to accommodate your brood, but think school camp rather than Park Lane Hilton in terms of comfort.
So the jury in the Dawe household is still out. I love the Land Rover Defender’s styling but hate the fuel consumption, road manners, equipment levels and reliability record. In contrast my wife loves its simple engineering and enormous towing capacity.
Given the choice it’s a vehicle I would never drive again, but for the sake of my marriage it could still end up being part of the Dawe family transport fleet.

Four-wheel drive Permanent four-wheel drive and two-speed transfer box make the Defender one of the most competent off-roaders in the world
Wheels and tyres Oversized wheels and tyres look good but create extra tyre rumble. Deadens the steering feel
Turning circle Plan turns carefully as limited lock will catch you out in tight spaces
Towing Enormous 3,500kg towing capacity puts the Defender in a different league from most 4x4s
Rear door Boot-mounted spare wheel makes the rear door heavy to open and close
Wipers Small and noisy, they are barely up to the job
Headlights Standard units are feeble, particularly if lenses are covered in mud, so additional spotlights or upgraded bulbs are desirable
Engine Td5 oil pump can be prone to failure. If the oil light comes on stop immediately
Bodywork Aluminium body panels do not rust but can oxidise if damaged
Under body Check underside, preferably on ramps, for signs of off-road damage
Carrying capacity With up to 1,600kg payload capacity the Land Rover Defender can double up as a removal lorry

Vital statistics
Model 90 Td5 County Station Wagon
Engine 2495cc, four cylinders 
Power 122bhp
Transmission Five-speed manual
Fuel 28.2mpg (combined)
Acceleration Not published
Top speed  87mph
 
The one to buy
Land Rover Defender 90 SWB County Station Wagon Td5 2002 52 with 30,000 miles. Pay £13,295 at a franchised dealer, £12,000 privately

Or for similar money...
2003 53 Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DI-D
2002 02 Nissan Patrol GR 3.0 Di SE
2004 54 SsangYong Rexton 270 Xdi S
2004 04 Hyundai Terracan 2.9 CRTD
2004 04 Isuzu Trooper 3.0 TD Citation

Values
Mileage 20,000 30,000 50,000
2001 51 Trade £10,795 £10,295 £9,395
Retail £12,500 £12,000 £10,495
2002 52 Trade £12,095 £11,495 £10,395
Retail £13,895 £13,295 £12,195
2003 55 Trade £13,595 £12,995 £11,695
Retail £15,395 £14,795 £13,495
Source: estimates based on confidential CAP black book prices. ‘Trade’ is what a dealer would pay to buy your car; ‘Retail’ is what you would pay a dealer
 
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35417: sv: sv: sv: Sunday Times om Defender: (31-05-2006 08:18:11) (svar på 35412)
Paul Sehstedt #0027, reg. fyn (medlem) (ip-adr: 80.164.64.59)
Jason Dawe har en entusiatisk kone... hun forstår en LR's sjæl...
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35422: sv: sv: sv: sv: Sunday Times om Defender: (31-05-2006 09:32:10) (svar på 35417)
Morten Dam #6034, reg. nvsj (medlem) (ip-adr: 80.160.111.54)
Gad vide, om der er flere af arten, der hvor han fandt hende ...
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35429: sv: sv: sv: sv: sv: Sunday Times om Defender: (31-05-2006 14:06:16) (svar på 35422)
Lars Jørgensen #1584, reg. fyn (medlem) (ip-adr: 83.72.100.47)
Hej Morten

Jeg har sådan en, men om der er flere ved jeg ikke. David Bjerregaard har spurgt om det samme. Se i øvrigt mit indlæg 30805 om emnet

Håber du finder hende...............

De bedste hilsner

Lars /1584
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35446: sv: sv: sv: sv: sv: sv: Sunday Times om Defender: (31-05-2006 22:46:39) (svar på 35429)
Morten Dam #6034, reg. nvsj (medlem) (ip-adr: 80.160.111.54)
Hej Lars

Har set på indlæg 30805, og kunne egentlig godt huske det, da jeg læste det igen.
Din lykkestjerne må have stærke stråler. I det mindste må den have haft det den dag, du fandt den fortryllende hjerter dame, du har som ”transportminister“.
Må en dejlig 90"er krydse din vej. livet er for kort til at køre uden en sådan ekvipage.

Hilsener & vink fra
Morten